CNMI Guest Worker Issues: Federalization

August 16, 2009

Kilili's Town Hall Meeting

The Saipan Tribune covered the first of four town hall meetings that Congressman Gregorio (Kilili) Sablan is sponsoring in the CNMI while he is on August recess. The meeting that was held Friday night on Saipan was attended by about 60 people. Three more town hall meetings are scheduled for Tinian, Rota and Saipan this week.

Congressman Sablan made several key points at the meeting according to Saipan Tribune.

On status for nonresidents:
He said it would be better to grant improved status to long-term nonresident workers, immediate relatives of Freely Associated States citizens, CNMI permanent residents and others who have long been contributing to the local economy rather than bring in new workers under H visas.

Sablan said giving these categories of people an opportunity to remain here under federalization will be a “win-win situation for us,” rather than having this matter addressed at a later time and get caught up in the national immigration reform by next year. He said these documented long-term workers entered and remained here legally.
On another delay of PL 110-229:
He also reiterated his stance against another extension of the start of transition to federal immigration system, but said DHS, at this time, is not ready to implement Public Law 110-229.

Press secretary Charles Reyes, during the town hall meeting, asked Sablan why he has not supported a further delay in federalization when he knows the economic loss of the CNMI not having continued access to Chinese and Russian tourists as well as foreign workers, and DHS not being prepared to implement regulations.

Sablan said he has had meetings with Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano where he pointed out DHS' slow actions. He said in the weeks ahead, he will have a decision whether to support a call for a delay.
The Marianas Variety reported:
Sablan said he is not convinced that the implementation of the federalization law should be delayed.

He said he has been in constant communication with the office of DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano to ensure a smooth transition.

Napolitano already granted the CNMI’s request to delay from June 1 to Nov.28 the implementation of the law.

Another delay will require the enactment of a new federal law.
Guest workers and their leaders do not support another delay. The CNMI DOL has been refusing to extend transfers and many guest workers have been leaving the CNMI. At the same time the CNMI DOL continues to bring in new foreign contract workers.

A delay would result in lengthening the uncertainty for the nonresidents and residents alike, and would could mean that even more nonresidents being repatriated before the PL 100-229 kicks in. Guest worker groups agree that stability of families and the workforce will benefit the CNMI and a delay would be counter-productive.

The Marianas Variety reported on another negative aspect of the outflow of the foreign contract workers - the fact that it is adversely impacting the economy:
Commerce said due to the decreasing population, businesses are seeing their pool of workforce shrink.

The department estimates that 20,000 people have left the island since 2005.

The islands’ population peaked to 78,000 but is now down to about 55,000.

The exit of the garment industry is one of the prime reasons for the population decline, Commerce said.
I am sure that businesses are not just seeing "their pool of workforce shrink", but also a decline in customers and profits as more people exit the CNMI.

On Foreign Investors:
He also said that the U.S. Department of Homeland Security is expected to issue investor regulations in the next few weeks, but added that the federal agency is not obligated to issue the CNMI-only transitional worker program rules or any H visa rules before Nov. 28.
The Congressman further expressed that a recent he was seeking a federal investigation on an alleged foreign investment scam that has been advertised in Korea falsely claiming that foreign investment status in the CNMI will automatically be transferable to foreign investment status in the U.S.


Anonymous said...

No visa waivers for Russians and Chinese tourists. A crushing blow to the CNMI economy. 'I think it's wrong.'-Kilili said. It is wrong and devastating to both businesses and employees. PIC will undoubtedly lay off workers both contract and local. Saipan Submarine will close, over 30% of it's revenue comes from the Chinese market. They can apply for US Visa's the rumor goes, nonsense. It take weeks for a Russian citizen to get a US Visa, sometimes months or never. China is worse. Hundreds if not thousands of workers will lose their jobs after Nov 28. Oh wait, this is not about jobs or tourism this is about better 'status' for guest workers. What a sham.

Wendy said...

I didn't mention visa waivers because the regulations were published months ago and from the May 19, 2009 hearing response, it seemed like a mute point. I agree it will change things. I assume that the MVA and CNMI government has been reaching out to increase tourism from Japan, Korea and other countries to make up for the loss.

Anonymous said...

The 'loss' you speak of Wendy are thousands of jobs - lost. States sue the Federal Govt all the time to prevent situations such as what is happening to the CNMI. Russians spend A LOT of money and have become the elite investors. That's over now. Japan and Korea are in a massive recession which is predicted to last ten more years at the very least. The takeover is final nail in the coffin for tourism in the CNMI. Thousands of contract workers will be laid off. Their only hope now is to have better status. Good luck with that. Oh, what other countries are you referring to in regards to tourism, Malaysia? Thailand? New Zealand? You are naive and foolish.

Anonymous said...

It's a “moot” point, too.


Wendy said...

Anonymous 6:41

Thanks! -I think 4 hours of sleep a night is not enough! :)

Wendy said...

Anonymous 4:24

Your point is correct about the visa waivers - there will be job losses if the CNMI has not prepared to bring in tourists from other countries to substitute for those tourists who are not willing to get visas to travel to the CNMI as they must to travel to the mainland and Hawaii. Thousands? who knows? The economy was tanked long before the bill was even passed. Job losses have been rising for years in the CNMI. How many years advance was the CNMI government told to prepare for the exit of the garment industry?

Not even going to bother answering the last snarky half of your comment.

Anonymous said...

They prepared and secured their pockets that's what they did. Heck, their own local gov't and the previous and current (not all) legislature don't even care about their people, now your crying like a baby blaming everything to the feds and the guest workers? get a life dude!

Anonymous said...

JFYI, There are over 40 new hotels being built or under construction in the Phil.There is also an increase in Condominiums and other housing. (Manila Times,Philippine Star)
There has been an increase in the number of Chinese, and Korean tourists and retirees along with strong steady business investment in many areas of the Phil.

In the beginning China and Russians had to have a Visa to enter the NMI. This present waiver for the nmi came long after the Tinian Dynasty was opened. At that time Dynasty was active to increase the Chinese tourism market.(still is)as they rely on these prepaid groups. Although it was never "great" like now without a visa. They are still actively promoting in China.
What does the MVA do except spend money travel and hire politically connected people.

Anonymous said...

After the Chinese leave, maybe MVA can hire some of the brighter people around here like Wendy, Cactus, the teacher, Jim B, Captain, and Goose, because the current administration has be a nightmare for the CNMI economy.

Anonymous said...

Hey Wendy, so are you saying that Kilili is doing a great job because he favors granting your Kamabayan improved immigration status? If he opposes it, like the dude should, then is he a bad guy in your book?

Just wondering.

Wendy said...

Anonymous 12:59

The post is not concerning the quality of the job that the congressman is doing. It highlights what was said at a town hall meeting and includes some commentary about the DHS regulations.

Anonymous said...


The Federal Government DHS takeover of labor and immigration has little or nothing to do with guest workers living in the CNMI. It's not like they sat around talking about the future of contract workers and bettering their 'status'. This is about security not Filipinos. In fact, their status is the least of the DHS worries, they are more concerned about the possibility of dozens of Abu Sayaf terrorists residing on Saipan right now.

Melberlin said...

Since the local gov't is about the CNMI economy, then why instead they sat around and talking about sending out and not absorbing guest workers, even though this means negative view impacting the economy as what Commerce said? Now, if DHS is only concerned on security, then both local and US gov't is not looking the economy attentively? I don't think so, US is regarding also the economy, remember the original law (5+years are being absorbed but was deleted due to local gov't resistance). So what are they fighting for? protecting owns' personal interest? be the honcho forever. Opponents should be quite now (I can feel) because opposing a cause that promoting to enhance well-being for the majority will always prevail.

Congress Watcher said...

The deletion from Pub. L. 110-229 of the "FAS status" provision for CNMI foreign national workers had nothing to do with the CNMI.

Del. Madeleine Bordallo (D-Guam) had it removed because she did not want Guam flooded with CNMI guest workers at local Guamanians' expense.

No way is DHS going to be ready by Novermber 28, 2009. If Kilili had an ounce of integrity he would support a one-year delay for DHS to get their act together.

Wendy said...

Anonymous 1:37

It seems that people who don't sign their names or identify themselves feel free to write anything without consideration of fact or connection to the post. DHS may not be worried about status, but the US Congress is. What is the basis of your terrorist remark? You spoke to someone in DHS that expressed that view?

Read the intent of the law. I have posted it a dozen times on this site. it is not just dealing with security.

Melberlin said...

The CNMI government lobbied successfully to have it removed.

Melberlin said...

"The CNMI government lobbied successfully to have it removed"...meant for Congress Watcher above...

Wendy said...

Congress watcher

If DHS is not ready by November 2009 they should answer to Congress and to the U.S. taxpayers. Can they be ready? Absolutely. Should they be? They should have been ready by June 2009. They already had a delay. Another delay? For what? So that DHS and partner agencies are given a pass not to do their job again for 6 more months? Then what? Do they ask for another, and another and another delay? Enough is enough. They said at the hearing that they would be ready.

It's not like the CNMI government is assisting with a smooth transition, but that should not be an excuse.

Integrity is about doing what one is tasked to do well and within deadlines. Integrity is reminding DHS that they have deadlines -Bingaman, Murkoswki, Kilili and Biordallo did this in the form of a letter to the secretaries of DHS and DOI.

Congress Watcher said...

Deadlines, schmedlines.

“Easier said than done.” For Congressmember and blogger alike.

Sure, we all have freedom of speech. But those “public servants” and “activists” who carp the loudest about others' shortcomings are usually the last to assist or take that action themselves.

It is oh so easy to attack DHS, CNMI labor, or whomever. Don't be surprised at your targets' recruiting and retention issues.

Why would anyone want to put up with all the guff you dish out?

It's a wonder anything gets done!

Anonymous said...


The June 15 letter from Bingaman, Murkowski, Bordallo, and Kilili was undoubtedly an important letter that needed to be sent. HOWEVER, it called for, among other items, PROMPT ACTION on (1) a formal interagency coordinating process among DOI, DHS, and DOL, (2) the convening of a subgroup to coordinate implementation of PL 110-229, (3) assurances that the views of the federal labor ombudsman be integrated into the interagency policy-making process, and (4) a classified briefing in coordination with DOD on "security risks" associated with foreign visitors in the CNMI and Guam.

While the letter made headlines, I have not heard a peep about any response to the requested "prompt action" and can't believe that we wouldn't have heard if ANY action had been undertaken by DHS on any of these requests. If DHS or anyone else had done anything in response to that letter, we would have heard about it.

That letter was sent over 60 days ago; more than one-third of the remaining days from the original transition date to the delayed transition date have passed. I have also not heard of any further "requests" from congress to DHS on this front.

Letters such as the June 15 letter cost nothing, and mean nothing if they are not backed up by action. If congress is unwilling to back up such letters, when DHS ignores them, as appears to be the case here, then we might as well just pack things up and save the US taxpayers a lot of money. I expect letters from me or you to be ignored, but when a letter from congress is ignored, and nothing is done about it almost half way between the request date and the date that implementation is going to occur, then we need to reassess whether congressional representation is all that it's cracked up to be.

Kilili is absolutely an million percent improvement over his immediate predecessors, but then again, that's not much of a benchmark. He needs back up his letters with some action. If that doesn't happen, then we might as well go back to electing the Pete A's and Juan B's.

Anonymous said...

I cannot help but think that we had a chance to salvage the visa waiver program for Chinese and Russian tourists had the current administration decided to sit down and negotiate in good faith. Federal officials visited Saipan but were given the "cold shoulder" by Governor Fitial and his minions! Now we are faced with a real disaster and nothing is being done to implement Plan B because there is no Plan B. Who will Charles Reyes blame for the upcoming economic catastrophe?

Wendy said...

Anonymous 11:04

Of course, your statement is correct! Now that I am working once again (summer vacation has ended) I have had to leave abbreviated responses. You may be right in stating that there has been no response to that letter, which is not to minimize the importance of the letter. It certainly isn't the fault of a member of Congress that a letter has not been answered, (If, indeed, it hasn't.) Didn't Mr. Sablan indicate that he had a meeting with DHS? Maybe the answers to questions were given at that meeting.

As far as Kilili, his record speaks for itself. I previously wrote a post about the federal money, grants and positive legislation he has introduced on behalf of the CNMI.

Wendy said...

Congress Watcher

Deadlines that are legislated should be followed! Taxpayers and citizens have the right to expect that our elected leaders and government offices will make sure that deadlines are met. I am not attacking the DHS. I do not know if they will meet the deadline. I am saying that they should meet it, and we have a right to expect them to meet it.

What has the Fitial Administration done to help in the transition? Failed to meet with people, filed a federal lawsuit, called for delays, failed to divulge an OGA request and on and on. It will be a tribute to DHS if they can ensure a smooth transition.

“Don’t be surprised at your target’s recruiting and retention issues.” What does that mean?

If you consider my opinions and commentary “guff” you are free not to visit this site.

the teacher said...

Madeline has not been a friend to Saipan. She was instrumental in getting the grandfather clause removed from the original bill, her angling into Russian/Chinese visa waivers is what cost Saipan, her angling into the H-1 visas showed that she would not allow the CNMI to have a niche that Guam didn’t have.

With a handful of exceptions, the US doesn't give a damn about the status of contract workers unless it is to deny them.

Perhaps we can reopen the issue of visa waivers with Russia at some later date after 11-28.

I don't want a delay, but...last Jan., feds here preparing for June 1 told me that they would have 80 immigration officers here by March 1 and I laughed out loud at that. I told them we have inadequate housing unless they buy the Hyatt and mother will not be thrilled to learn we have no potable water and there is no way they will have that number of US families here without enormous preparation...which we have not had. Other hiring paying US agencies, like the FBI, have had positions opened for a year without filling them. I suppose this all comes down to funding.

Remember, I have never seen 1 mainland American tourist here...not 1. I have seen people looking for work, visiting relatives, spouses and partners, American teachers vacationing from China, Korea, and Japan, military visitors from GUM, but I have never seen an American family come here on a vacation and recruiting here will require MONEY.

Congress Watcher said...

Undoubtedly DHS is having difficulty finding employees to transfer here. Don't be surprised at the short-term “detailed” employees, lack of equipment, high turn-over.

You are right about one thing, though. The feds' many shortcomings are obviously Fitial's fault. (!). HA!

Anonymous said...

I thought that there is an transition period for so many years after the start of this takeover. Many issues will be finalized then as the problems pop up and what is needed shows itself.

Anonymous said...

That is right, until December 31, 2014. Maybe we will get status then!

Anonymous said...

Federalization will phase out contract workers. Wendy mentioned that the entire US Congress is concerned about the plight of the guest workers...nonsense, there are about 3 to 4 members of US Congress who actually know where Saipan is. LOL!

Congress Watcher said...

It could happen, if the people of the CNMI and their elected representatives support it!

Zaldy is right. Our OCW leaders have been on the wrong bandwagon, complaining about "victimization" and demanding our U.S. citizenship "rights" to activists and Congressional staffers. Instead we should be humbly approaching our hosts, appealing to their sense of fairness and fraternal charity, that we are family who have raised their children, built their houses, and attend Mass with them weekly. And we want to continue to be part of the CNMI family. Instead, what do we do? We spit in their faces and demand political control of these islands.

If we finally get it right and approach the indigenous people in humility, we should not be greedy. Legal residence in the CNMI for ten or fifteen years would be a good compromise to get green cards or FAS privileges. Those who have "suffered" less can be patient like we were, until they truly understand the local culture and sensitivities.

Wendy said...

Anonymous 1:16

"Wendy mentioned that the entire US Congress is concerned about the plight of the guest workers."

I did not say that. I said, "DHS may not be worried about status, but the US Congress is." I meant that DHS does not ultimately decide the issue of status; the Congress has to introduce legislation.

You actually think that only 3 or 4 members of the US Congress know where Saipan is? Get real. More than 3 or 4 are on the House and Senate committees that oversee the islands. The entire House and Senate voted on PL 110-229 and they vote on other legislation that impacts the CNMI. Congressman Sablan is a member of how many caucuses with how many members? He sits on how many committees with how many members? How many members of Congress do people like me visit and correspond with? And it is the CNMI, not just Saipan that I am talking about.

LOL indeed.

Anonymous said...

Wrong again Wendy. The US Congress, yes even the liberal left are FAR more concerned about the what is happening to Americans in the mainland right now. The recession has devastated the US economy laying off millions of worker, and voters. The US voter must know if their congress is traveling to the far corners of the world, spending hundreds of thousands of their tax money to help non-US Citizens and their children get better 'status', like H Visas,jobs and money. That's right, sooner or later the American taxpayer and voter will determine whether or not they get reelected. Even the ultalibs are suffering right now and demand that their needs come first.

Wendy said...

anonymous 10:34

Everyone -every person who is on U.S. soil, whether a resident or non-resident, whether a U.S. citizen or foreigner is the concern of the US Congress and government.

Do you think that the foreign contract workers in the CNMI just showed up there? Hardly! They were invited to fill positions that locals lacked skills for or could not fill. They entered as legal foreign contract workers.

There are millions of voters who share my views. Most Americans appreciate the foreign contract workers and immigrants who fill jobs and boost the economy. The haters and vocal ranters are in the minority in the U.S. otherwise the last election would not have turned out the way it did.

Maybe there are more pressing issues, but comprehensive immigration reform is on the agenda. In fact, it is taking the spotlight this week as the Asian American dedicate a week to the issue here in the states.

Anonymous said...

How quickly we all forget our own situation. Some have said that they don't agree with the Guest Workers "going over the heads" of the locals and the elected officials.

This is an inaccurate statement. Locals and our elected officials have been contacted and this has been discussed with them.

We must remember that the power to grant US Citizenship is not in our local governments hands and never will be. That power rest firmly in the hands of the Federal Government. Whether we like it or not they hold the key to unlocking the citizenship gates for the workers that have been in the CNMI for decades.

Some say that they are just "guest workers" and that Citizenship was not promised to them and therefor "how dare they appeal to the Feds for it?".

Well what of our own short history. Was it not just a few decades ago that we too were not US Citizens with no "promise" of US Citizenship? Did we not have a seat at our local government at the time, the Congress of Micronesia? Didn't we as the NMI pull away from that local government so that we could "appeal to the Federal Government" to alter our status? Did we not talk directly to the Feds (going over the Congress of Micronesia's heads)? Did we not go so far as to even burn down the Congress of Micronesia building on our island? Did we not talk and negotiate for US Citizenship with the Federal Government? Did our direct talks and negotiations with the Feds result in the Covenant and further the GRANTING OF US CITIZENSHIP (that was never before PROMISED) to us TT Citizens in the NMI?

Enough with the double standards and the crap that the few are now spewing.

We allowed at a local level thousands of foreigners to come and live among us for decades don't turn around now and blame them for asking to be able to remain or blame the feds for potentially granting it.

What is your fear? If it is a true fear why is it just now manifesting itself? Why did you not mount protest against guest workers and foreigners in our lands long ago?


Anonymous said...

Noni 1:02:

BRAVO!! you nail it in the head...


alfie centauri said...

Your historical parallels make sense only to the extent that one regards the attitudes and actions of 1970's-era Marianas separatism as good, admirable, and worthy of emultation.

Is that really the position you want to take?

VY Canis Majoris - PART 1 said...

alfie centauri,

The US Virgin Islands 1982 Immigrant Reform Act is very worthy of emulation. Let’s go with that. Do a bit of research (much has been comment on it here). Parallels are uncanny. Remedy that was opted for set a precedent that we are all failing to recognize.

If you are unhappy with our CNMI history and our separatist attitudes of the past are you actively working to remedy it? What would be the remedy?

What position would you like to take?

Let’s see we controlled our Immigration as a result of the actions taken in 1970’s-era. We created a CNMI Guest Worker program. We brought in hordes of foreign workers in a short span of time (rivaling any population increase in the history of the world within a span of 5 years). We took them on to fill “gaps” that existed due to shortage of manpower in the Hospitality and Garment Industries. The temptations of low cost labor were much too high for our savvy businessmen. Over the years they replaced rather than complimented our resident workforce for much cheaper costs and with much more control factors (think indentured servants). We fought the federal government at all costs to retain control over this CNMI ONLY Guest Worker Program. We paid lobbyist (Abramoff, et al). We passed local laws to improve labor conditions and stop abusive and un-American practices only to repeal them once the Feds looked away. We are now suing to retain control of that same CNMI ONLY Guest Worker Program.

Well at some point we are going to have to wake up. THE CNMI GUEST WORKER PROGRAM IS OVER. As soon as we implement 110-229 (hopefully in November, unless big business and their lobbyist have their way and force yet another delay) we will be in a state of transition. We will have to decide where we will go from there.

The STATUS QUO is no longer. A new system is upon us.

VY Canis Majoris - PART 2 said...

I hear a few groups and individuals saying lets just leave things as they are. Stop shouting, Stop putting focus on this. They say no Politian will embrace this. They will keep with the status quo. Well, there is no status quo. Change has been forced upon us.

What now with the CNMI ONLY GUEST WORKERS who are still here?

A 2 year period after implementation was put into PL 110-229 to deal with that issue. And it can be addressed at any time within that two year period.

Right now many have been calling for a return of the provision that Guam had removed and that was replaced with this 2 year period. That provision was in every federal bill dealing with ending the guest worker program in the CNMI for the last 10+ years. That provision was a grandfathering provision. It basically stated that any guest worker that has LEGALLY been residing and working the in CNMI for a period of 5+ years would get improved status and a pathway to US citizenship.

What does that mean? It grants to the LEGAL guest workers what would be available to others foreigners that ever happen to reside in the CNMI for 5+ years after the implementation.

These CNMI GUEST WORKERS have been here living among us in our community for 5, 10, 20+ years.

What we have to do now is determine what will happen to these current Legal Guest Workers.

A few solutions have been offered. This is the one I would prefer and I will explain why:

- Have the Feds grant Long-term Guest Workers (those who have lived continuously and legally in the CNMI for 5 years or more) improved status and a pathway to eventual citizenship. ***The same solution that was done in 1982 in the US Virgin Islands and the same solution that has been called for in every Bill addressing the end of our guest worker program for decades in US Congress and the same solution that has been publicly embraced by at least 10 sitting legislators, our US Congressman, a majority of CNMI residents and a majority of guest workers.***

==== This will mean that all long-term guest workers will be made permanent residents. They will have to apply and meet the qualifications that are pre-determined such as length of stay in the CNMI, criminal background checks, etc. Once they get that status upgrade they can remain in the CNMI as RESIDENTS. They will still not be able to VOTE. That will come in time. After about a 5 year period they can apply for US Citizenship that process will have a set of requirements as well. They may then be granted US Citizenship. This whole process will take 5+ years.

We are talking about people that have already been here in the CNMI for over 5 years so at the time they get US Citizenship they would have been here for 10+years some even 30 or more years. Is that so unimaginable?

VY Canis Majoris - PART 3 said...

Some have argued against this and they say that if given improved status these long term guest workers will influence our culture and society if granted improved status. They have already influenced local culture and we have influenced theirs.

They have lived here for 5, 10, 20+ years. They have grown up with us, worked with us, slept with us, played with us, argued with us, prayed with us, danced and sung with us, drank/ate with us, cooked with us, walked with us, etc.

They were not invisible all these years that they have resided in our lands. They have contributed to our community, our economy and our society.

Who are we kidding the choice right now is simple. The guest worker program is over. Do you want to send all the guest workers that have been an integral part of this community home without a choice? The same guest workers we all scream we so need. The same guest workers who we bent local laws to keep here for longer periods of time then originally agreed upon because we didn't want to lose them. The same guest workers we call friends? WHY?

There is no logical reason. We are talking about people that have been here legally for 5, 10, 20+ years.

All of a sudden, now our local indigenous community is fretful about the impact they may have on our local indigenous culture? Now, we have a PROBLEM with them being here?! WHY? Where were all of our protests for them to leave years ago? Where were the letters calling for them to be force to leave the islands? Where were the dialogues and communications with our local elected officials to pass laws to remove them from our islands? Where were the many business owners that were calling for them to leave? If we don’t grant the long term guest workers status they will BE FORCED TO LEAVE. If the Chamber, DFS and other politically influential businesses have a problem with forcing their guest workers (who have worked for them for years) to leave than they need to lobby to have them be granted improved status so they can STAY and continue doing exactly what they have been allowed by our local government to do for years: LIVING PEACEFULLY AND LEGALLY AMONG US IN THE CNMI.

captain said...

In regards to Chinese and Russian tourists along with the rest of the tourism decline.
It was reported yesterday that Hawaii has had the lowest hotel occupancy rate since the start of the figure being reported in 1984. And this in spite of a decrease in Hotel rates and other "promo".(no need to go into percentage and numbers)
It seems that the NMI is focusing on only two markets that do not have significant number of visitors compared the the other markets like Japanese and Koreans.

The Tinian Dynasty has the bulk of Chinese visitors and groups,(99%) they have been struggling since they opened their doors when a visa was required to enter the NMI, they have been struggling also since the visa waiver in the NMI. The Dynasty is the one that is bringing in the "Charter flights" and they have numbers of arrivals and departures.

The Immigration and also DOL admit they cannot keep track of numbers. The MVA figures is questionable, but they at least have some.

This "one track mind" syndrome is another example of what is destroying the NMI.

This Govt is trying to play the "pity" game with the US to try and "blackmail" them to do their bidding and send more money to compensate for a problem that was not caused the Feds but by the lack of foresight by the past and present Administrators, while suing them in the meantime instead of trying to negotiate.