More Siemer Garbage

April 27, 2010

Fitial's DOL "volunteer" Deanne Siemer claims that "just like in the U.S. mainland, no one is leaving the CNMI." She was comparing the legal foreign contract workers in the CNMI to illegal aliens in the U.S. mainland. The statement made yesterday to the Saipan Chamber of Commerce is untrue. In fact, on average 700 or more illegal Mexicans return to Mexico through a gate in Tijuana every day. That's just one gate in one state for over 2,000 miles of border.

In 2008 MSNBC reported:
U.S. deportations have jumped by more than 60 percent over the past five years. Mexicans accounted for nearly two-thirds of those deportees, helping to roll back one of the biggest migrations of recent history. All along the border, shelters once full of people trying to cross into the United States are now home to thousands of deportees who sleep on mattresses strewn inches apart on cement floors.

In a week spent at the Tijuana gate, The Associated Press watched busload after busload of deportees arrive, some in a daze, still stunned over their sudden expulsion. Many stumbled over the Mexican official's question, "Where are you from?" after spending decades in the United States.

The faces of those who stream through reflect how tough and far-reaching the U.S. crackdown on illegal immigration has become.

Among them are young people. There were more than 18,000 repatriations of children under 18 to Mexico this year, and in more than 10,000 cases they were alone, according to the Mexican government.

There are also criminals. The U.S. does not break down figures by country, but it has deported about 55,000 prisoners so far this year. One man walked through the gate in slippers with 80 cents in his pocket, after being picked up by police during a violent fight with his wife in their backyard.

And there are women, with more than 40,000 repatriations since January — about 13 percent of all cases, according to the Mexican government. Sometimes the women are dropped off alone, at night. The U.S. Border Patrol in Washington says the safe repatriation of women is a major concern, but acknowledges there is no overall policy along the 2,000-mile border.
In February 2010 IPS reported that "the number of people deported from the U.S. annually has grown from just over 69,000 to over 356,000 in the past eight years, while resource-starved immigration judges issue decisions without sufficient time to conduct legal research and analyse the complex cases they are asked to decide." They reported:
The TRAC study found that the annual number of deportation cases brought in the nation's federal courts more than quadrupled during the eight years of the Bush administration. It reported that the September 2008 total of 11,454 immigration prosecutions represented an increase of over 700 percent from the same month seven years earlier.

The study reported that in fiscal year 2008, Department of Homeland Security (DHS) officers apprehended at least 791,568 deportable non-citizens; initiated 291,217 removal proceedings in the immigration courts against non-citizens; detained 378,582 non-citizens; and effected the deportation of 358,886 non-citizens.

The study says, "Immigration lawyers, civil rights advocates and some members of Congress have for many years been concerned about the operation of the Immigration Courts that are now a part of the Justice Department."
There is no doubt that the system in the mainland is also broken. Still aliens are leaving. Perhaps Ms. Siemer listens to too many hate radio programs that promote propaganda like, "No one is leaving."

In fact, foreign workers are leaving the CNMI also. Some who were not renewed or left their employment because of labor cases have moved on to other places to support their families. Some professionals including nurses have reported getting higher paying and more secure positions in places like the United States, Australia and Canada. My friend, Celso left the CNMI and is now working in Saudi Arabia. I know of dozens of others that have left since November 28, 2009.

It's ironic that it was the CNMI government who brought in tens of thousands of foreign workers, renewed their contracts for years, even decades, and now the complaint is that they are not leaving. It's even more ironic that the complaint that legal foreign workers are not leaving is coming from the voice of the Fitial Administration that whined to Judge Friedman that the terrible, bad federalization would take away all of the foreign workforce, thus destroying the CNMI economy. (You know, the one that was destroyed already.)

So what is Siemer really saying? Her complaint isn't that the workers are not leaving the CNMI, but that the local government no longer has legal authority to regulate them. They no longer have the authority to deport them before they can collect their wages or get justice. In fact, how many "illegal" aliens are there in the CNMI? Those that have umbrella permits are legal and recognized by the federal government as legal until November 2011.

Seimer claims that they are a strain on the federally funded hospital and that the CNMI is absorbing the cost of the unemployed. I thought the U.S. taxpayers funded CNMI social programs. It must be just terrible for them not to have authority over the powerless underclass that they have kicked around for decades.

Siemer had the gall to state that the CNMI Department of Labor has never put anyone in jail for violating labor law. The vast majority of people who have violated labor law in the CNMI were unscrupulous employers who cheated and abused employees. In fact, the CNMI has so rarely enforced their own laws or held any of those criminal employers truly accountable that you can count the cases where the OAG actually stepped in to prosecute. Otherwise, would there be millions in unpaid judgments? Politics and nepotism have not just poisoned the legal system, but the labor system.

Siemer was quoted by the Saipan Tribune as saying, “The CNMI is not looking to disadvantage employers [and] is not looking to disadvantage employees.” God forbid that an unscrupulous employer should ever get fined or jailed for refusing to pay back wages, for failing to refund an employee for illegal deductions, or for any number of other abuses and violations. The fact that the hollow CNMI labor laws have been so rarely enforced has encouraged and perpetuated abuses. Every employer knows there have never been teeth to the laws and there are no consequences for violating labor law.

The Saipan Chamber of Commerce president, Kyle Calabrese claimed that after Siemer explained the new CNMI labor laws-- the ones that violate the U.S. Constitution-- there is "a better understanding of the new regulations." What's not to understand? PL 17-1 represents a law that is unconstitutional, that conflicts with federal law, and was written in an attempt to undermine federalization and U.S. authority in a last ditch battle to maintain the broken local system.


Anonymous said...

Are the chamber members stupid or do they just hear what they want to hear? Didn't they have USCIS speak to them and tell them DOL has no more power? Move on people.

Anonymous said...

When your original visa expires and you do not leave the country, you are illegally in the country. Many educated foreign workers in the US make the journey back home to get their papers renewed. Foreign workers in the CNMIust make that same voyage.

Anonymous said...


We do not need to leave until November 28, 2011 when our umbrella permits expire. By then we will have status.

Anonymous said...

I refuse to listen to Schemer or any of Fitial's lap dogs. She needs to get on her broom and fly into the sunset. The fat lady sang.

Anonymous said...

"We do not need to leave until November 28, 2011 when our umbrella permits expire. By then we will have status."

You don't know that. In fact it doesn't look like that at all.

The thousands of illegal Mexicans being deported is a Mexico problem not the United States. What is MEXICO doing about it? They are after all MEXICAN CITIZENS.

The unemployed contract workers number in the thousands on Saipan. They are part of the welfare class. They have no money so they can't leave. The US will no doubt deport thousands of "guest workers"
after 2011. Some will be able to stay but that number will be in the hundreds - maybe.

Captain said...

It is unbelievable that this woman can stand up with a straight face and state so many false and stupid things.
I wonder where she is hiding? Is she sincerely so misinformed and out of touch?
OR is this the onset of "dementia".

BTW, very many US Cit. are leaving the US areas for foreign countries to work also due the joblessness and the "Obama Doctrines".

This is probably one reason that there still are so many "working age" people still left in the NMI.
Maybe the "local" exodus has slowed a bit. I know of many that are searching Guam for work though, along with many others that contracts will be expiring and have abtained an employment visa.
From many contract workers that I have talked to, many are just waiting to see what "status" will be given and what affect it will have on any decision to leave for Guam before this Admin. pulls the Islands down to the "Abyss"

TAGLISH said...

Siemer, you’re a big fat liar!!!

Isn’t it that’s what your boss Fitial is fighting for? For us CW, to stay on island not to disrupt whatever economy you have now. So why are you barking now? But don’t you worry, Seimer. Most of my friends have gone to better better places like Canada, Australia,Italy etc. We're planning too. Some people that I know are also planning to go home or to some place else. In fact, few employees from CUC with their families are leaving soon for Canada. Who knows maybe when you wake up, CWs are all gone! When that happened, mind you Seimer, we will not come back and WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT Saipan WILL NOT BENEFIT FROM OUR CHILDREN’S SKILLS AND TALENTS IN THE NEAR FUTURE. Sounds ungrateful, huh? But who is not, when you don’t even treat us human here. You will realize one day that all you have on this island is a bunch of crooks, criminals, people like you! “This island stinks, simple sewer problem can’t be fixed” that’s what my 9 yr old son said. Who would love to raise a family here? We don’t like our kids to see your wrongdoings and grow up surrounded by people like you. This is a place of cowards, too!

Anonymous said...

Anon 10:53 A.M.

Most of those illegal Mexicans (not all) are illegal because they crossed the boarder, with no working permits. Most of us aliens (not all) came here legally, our permits were processed so it's should not be compared at all.

If some of us became illegal it is because of the dysfunctional department of labor, the ridiculous way of processing our permits. If only dept of labor did their job, this wont happen. From losing the documents that were already submitted, 6 months to process a renewal (they should have the records already)red tape,down to the ridiculous requirements, etc. the gestapo like DOL officers, inefficient service DOL have done, contributed to commit fraudulent alternatives and drove the people to do the illegal thing,. Who would like to be illegal? Nobody!

Anonymous said...

Not to mention her blatant lie that federalization is causing all the jobless aliens to just hang here without going home and HER FALSE CLAIM that the CNMI was deporting 200-300 aliens per year - LIAR. If the CNMI had diligently enforced its labor and immigration laws the way Ms. snaketongue claims, there would be no federalization, US citizen stampede out of her or unemployed aliens that she wants Uncle Sam to remove on our tax dime.

Unbelievable - not dimented just pathological

Anonymous said...

Only people that want the CNMI to go back to subsistance living want the contract workers to leave. They are hard working and contribute to economy. In fact, we would not have an economy without them. It seems that what alot of people in this forum want is for the workers to have green cards. Period. Why? Because they are here and doing the job they were hired to do? I guess we should just open our boarders to anyone who wants in and give them the keys to a new car and house when they arrive. Or am I missing something?

Anonymous said...

If Siemer's so upset about people without jobs not leaving, why don't she and Howard leave? After all, they're only "volunteers."

Wendy said...

Anonymous 11:34

You said: It seems that what alot of people in this forum want is for the workers to have green cards. Period. Why? Because they are here and doing the job they were hired to do? I guess we should just open our boarders to anyone who wants in and give them the keys to a new car and house when they arrive. Or am I missing something?

You are missing something. If a country (or commonwealth) needs labor, if people are invited to your shores to work, then you also must morally also provide a pathway to citizenship for those who commit to building the economy and providing their needed skills. I mean a no-nonsense, no jumping through hoops pathway to citizenship. Unobstructed. The law should be if you work 3 years in the U.S. or any of the territories without interruption, you can apply for a green card. None of this nonsense that if you work in the CNMI you can apply for a green card, but you have to be chained to the CNMI and can't go to the mainland or Guam for a certain period of time. No exclusions for those who worked years and decades in the CNMI but have no U.S. citizen children. Procreation should not be a factor in determining status. Why is it that some people in the federal government want to regard legal foreign workers in the CNMI as different from legal foreign workers in the US and think that they can impose restrictions that only reenforces the notion that they are second-class people in a two-tiered system?

Anonymous said...

AS the saying goes garbage in garbage out. I guess they are are put to garbage already.Foreign contract workers...wake up....this is not your home an d can never be.Got kids...send them to another places...where humans are....

Anonymous said...

What about the 78,000 foreign h2-visa workers picking U.S. fruits and christmas trees during the summer and winter season and returning to their home country every year? What about the 152,000 J-visa "trainees" that work along the east coast every summer at resort hotels, and then return to their home country? The U.S. does not always grant status to people who work on U.S. soil. Status is reserved for "skilled" workers or those with special abilities.

In the CNMI, the problem is the Department of Labor caved to employer demands and allowed unskilled foreign workers to put down roots here in the CNMI, and with each year of experience, created a disincentive to train local workers.

Unskilled workers are placing a demand on the social services here in the CNMI. Hospital stays, crime, and incarceration (up to 30K per inmate) does add up. Japan is having the same problem and has recently paid unemployed foreign workers $3,000 to leave.

Anonymous said...

anon 8:17 pm

garbage in garbage out. that goes for you. you put garbage into your system, now the garbage is getting out of your mouth. you stink! yes, we should send foreign contract workers where humans are, does it mean that we have to leave this place coz u locals are not human?

Anonymous said...

With President Obama retreating from taking any action on immigration reform this year, the likelihood of any Congressional action for the CNMI's foreign national workers is small for several years.

A wise person wouldn't hang around hoping for something, but instead take control of one's own life. This would include returning home to start a small business there, or seeking out countries that still actively welcome immigrants, including Canada and Australia.

Try to get as many qualifications as you can to be attractive to those immigrant-welcoming places.

Don't rely on the Department of the Interior or U.S. Congress to save you. Save yourself.

Anonymous said...

Dreaming is free of charge and if you will do it make it "BIG" just like me. I have a dream that someday there will be harmony in the CNMI. When young U.S. citizen children of various ethnicities have grown up and will work hand in hand with the CNMI people, may it be in Capital Hill, government and private offices. Where ideas will be put together into good working laws and policies that will benefit all.

I have a dream that we will have improved status, that we may have freedom in choosing our next employers, that we can bargain our pay rates and request for vacation to see our parents and siblings. Yes, 20 years of dreaming will payoff, soon, very, very soon. ANYWAY, DREAMING IS FREE OF CHARGE.

Captain said...

Anon 9:41, not so much a dream but soon to be a reality in out life time in the NMI.
Look at Fiji with the workers they brought in from India over the years.
I believe it was in the 80's when they had elected an Indian decent, from a workers family and was elected the President.
It continues untill today and changed the "Face" of Fiji.
The indigenous Fijian do not like it.
They did the same thing this NMI has done out of greed by the "connected" and could not understand the consequences.
Now the Fijian people are a minority in their own land with educated people in power running the Govt.
Was this good for Fiji? Majority of educated people say yes, the uneducated say no as the prior "connected" now do not have much of the power.
The jury has convened in the NMI and only history will tell after this present history is being made now with this Fitial and "recycled" elected self serving misfits.(majority)

Anonymous said...

Is this what the Fitial Admin is waiting before they resume their case with the Fed? They deleted it before so they can fight for it again?

Anonymous said...

Nice post Captain... and that's the only reason why so many opposes in here.

Anonymous said...

Fiji is a good example, but the CNMI under U.S. law would be considerable different. Fiji has had coups back in 2000 and 2006 allocating a certain percentage of house seats to Indians and having a requirement that the prime minister be an indigenous Fijian. Even Fiji have to declare their race and vote for Indian or Indigenous Fijian. In Fiji the indigenous Fijian population slightly outnumbers the Indian population. Here in the CNMI, population wise, the Chamorros and Carolinans are the minority and Filipino is the majority. Additionally, the governor is directly responsible for 4000-5000 jobs and indirectly responsible for thousands more. Unless the spoils system changes, political status for foreign workers could be considerably more devastating to the indigenous people here than for the indigenous population in Fiji.

Also in Fiji, historically, the British, not the indigenous population are really the ones that exploited the indians in Fiji.

Anonymous said...

Deanne is a talented progressive, having been the General Counsel to the Department of Defense during the Carter administration.

Even if you disagree with Deanne on some policy issues, you can't gainsay that she has been working her heart out for the people of the CNMI.

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Noni 11:10am,

"Even if you disagree with Deanne on some policy issues, you can't gainsay that she has been working her heart out for the people of the CNMI.

I gainsay that Deanne S. has not been working her heart out for the people of the CNMI. Matter of fact I think she is manipulating and calculating in her efforts to undermine anyone that is working their hearts out for the people of the CNMI.

There. I said it!